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Shadow

As if one of my diatribes wasn't long enough...now there are two to wade through.

Sorry about the double entry. It was not by design, but it will help in case there were any questions the first time through! ha

Shadow

Agree that life, in general, doesn't have any guarantee to 'end well'...but in the context of the narrative- for the relative 'unknown author' who now has the chance to publish and reach above obscurity (even if it does only reach web media) it's going to at least have the potential to 'end well.'

I concur that plagiarizing another's work is getting easier. The advent of the computer facilitated the job immensely. But the computer also facilitated the free flow of ideas and made communication over long distances feasible. Good or bad, it happened.

Some of those ideas that are communicated rapidly are bad ones...hijackers' coordinating, terrorists' planning, etc. Likewise, good has its chance to profit also. Nature of the medium...

Regarding plagiarism: it's usually pretty hard for the average writer, under a time crunch, to incorporate well worded ideas as his own and get away with it. This, I know from experience...both as the student and teacher. Ha.

As for the 'youth' part...I appreciate it. Turns out, it's been a while since I've been accused in that category.

Shadow

Agree that life, in general, doesn't have any guarantee to 'end well'...but in the context of the narrative- for the relative 'unknown author' who now has the chance to publish and reach above obscurity (even if it does only reach web media) it's going to at least have the potential to 'end well.'

I concur that plagiarizing another's work is getting easier. The advent of the computer facilitated the job immensely. But the computer also facilitated the free flow of ideas and made communication over long distances feasible. Good or bad, it happened.

Some of those ideas that are communicated rapidly are bad ones...hijackers' coordinating, terrorists' planning, etc. Likewise, good has its chance to profit also. Nature of the medium...

Regarding plagiarism: it's usually pretty hard for the average writer, under a time crunch, to incorporate well worded ideas as his own and get away with it. This, I know from experience...both as the student and teacher. Ha.

As for the 'youth' part...I appreciate it. Turns out, it's been a while since I've been accused in that category.

Sin Nick

Thus a cynic Shadow. Awe, the optimism of youth, so trusting in your fellow man to do the right thing.

No one ever profitted his soul by living on another's handout or dining on the orts of others, certainly not by believing that there is honor in calling another's ideas his own.

The new technology is making it so much easier to do the devil's work. Everyone has their price and can justify, ever so slightly in the beginning, crossing that line.

Besides, who says all is going to end well?

Shadow

Well...I contend things aren't as dire you predict Mr. Sin Nick. Those interested in publishing pieces for profit will most likely continue to copyright via legal and regular means. Meaning: they will continue to get paid.

Others will 'publish' via extraordinary means and potentially gain a name for themselves. So, all's well that ends well.

By the way...alternate definition of cynic:
A cynic is not merely one who reads bitter lessons from the past, he is one who is prematurely disappointed in the future.
Sidney J. Harris

Sin Nick

So it's not bad enough that we are having our hard earned money, land,--you name it taken from us and redistributed....now we have to have a brain drain too? Even our ideas and original thoughts are up for grabs by anyone and everyone!?! Where does it all end? It is going to be an incentive for the laziest, the least creative, ultimately the most cunning in society to feed off of those who do all the grunt work, only to have their genius syphoned off. Someone is going to get very rich off the intellect and creativity of others, I'm not so sure people are as altruistic as one might think.

Shadow

This is very interesting in that the whole thing is a gihugic paradigm shift on how we view an author's works...in the big scheme a book/article/etc really just passes ideas into the brains of readers allowing the reader's actions to be his alone.
This seems to beckon to the old quote..."there is no limit to the good you can do, if you don't care who gets the credit."
I like it.

a.brain

Thanks Justin, I appreciate the vote of confidence. Feel like I'm jumping in way over my head on this one...could be rather overwhelming - if you are not on the inside.

Justine Gates

Dude, well done. You hit the premise on the head, without getting to mired down in details. Here is another image of copyleft that I found on oreilly http://www.oreillynet.com/users/files/67715/copyleft-wings.jpg

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